Non-Surgical Back Pain Care – Spinal Decompression – Vancouver, Wa

Spinal decompression therapy in Vancouver, Washington is a non-surgical way to care for your back pain, sciatica, and other pain related to herniated, bulging or other disc problems.

To set up a free consultation to see if you qualify for this natural treatment give us a call at 360-260-6903!

Learn more about our Non-Surgical Back Pain Treatment Using Spinal Decompression in Vancouver, Wa.

Spinal Decompression Transcription

Hey,  Dr. Troy here in Vancouver, Washington.

Spinal decompression therapy is what we want to talk about today.

People ask me when they walk by our machine in the office they go,  “Dr. Troy what is that”? Well, it’s a spinal decompression traction machine that actually helps pull and decompress spinal discs that have been injured, that have been torn, potentially have had surgery on in the past.

What is it that we treat? Well, people usually come in because they’re in pain and they’d lost their quality of life. Things like back pain, sciatica, they’ve got leg pain, they’ve got numbness and tingling, they can’t feel their feet, maybe they’ve even got loss of reflexes or some weakness, even atrophy potentially could be helped with spinal decompression therapy here at our office in Vancouver Washington.

One of the cases we recently had was a lady in a motor vehicle accident. We were doing traditional chiropractic adjustments on her for about eight weeks. Her pain in her low back was at eight or nine and I said, you know after six, eight weeks this isn’t working let’s get an MRI.

We got an MRI she had two annular tears in her lower disc which means the outside fibers are torn allowing that the nucleus to push into the the cord and the nerve roots that were going down into her left leg. We’ve been working on her about four weeks now, recently she just came in she is at a pain level of two. So, she went from an eight to a nine down to a two with the decompression therapy in Vancouver.

We also did a rehab protocol to strengthen those surrounding muscles and soft tissue. Now that we’ve pulled the disc part we’re getting it to heal. We also want to cement that in with stronger muscles, stronger structures.

If you’re suffering, you know anybody suffering, you want to try spinal disc decompression therapy here at our Vancouver Washington office on 4th Plane and Andresen give us a call (360) 260-6903 and get a consultation scheduled with one of our doctors.

Spinal Decompression Treatment – Interview With Dr. Troy

Non-surgical care for back pain

Below is the transcription of an interview that Dr. Troy did on Absolute Life Radio discussing spinal decompression therapy.

Listen to part 1 of the interview:

Dr. Troy:  Hey, it’s Dr. Troy here.  I’m going to share with you a non-surgical way to reduce disc bulges, herniation, spinal disc degeneration, spinal stenosis, sciatica, and even post-surgical spine pain.

Host:  Dr. Troy, thank you for joining us again today.  We’re going to talk about spinal decompression.  Can we start by talking about what is Spinal Decompression?

Dr. Troy:  Yeah, yeah, absolutely.  Well, Spinal Decompression is a group of Doctors and we’ve gotten together in Portland and Vancouver.  And what we are doing is we are offering internal spinal disc decompression, and we’re going to call it IDC.  It’s a nonsurgical treatment for back and neck pain.  So, IDC treatment utilizes the newest technology in the nonsurgical – that’s the key here – in the nonsurgical approach to treating herniated degenerative disc injuries, as well as conditions caused by surgical failures, sprains and strains, and sciatica that is often associated with these conditions.

So, it’s a set of protocols that has been set by a team of neurologists, chiropractors, orthopedics, and neurosurgeons to rehabilitate and heal damaged discs. These discs are pads that act as shock absorbers between the vertebrae. Because of age or trauma and damage, these discs can actually break down and cause problems. The material that is inside the disc can actually leak out, bulge out, or herniate and this bulge can press against the spinal cord and or the nerves.

That is pretty much in essence what spinal decompression is. Our goal is to help reduce the effects and fix the discs, basically, what we are looking for. So the principle behind this is reducing the pressure on the disc and allowing negative pressure to develop. The negative pressure will cause something like a vacuum to occur and this vacuum will allow the jelly material that is inside the disc or that has protruded out to reduce the protrusion, reduce the pain.

More importantly, repeated spinal decompression promotes the diffusion of water, oxygen, and other nutrients back into the disc and promote healing. So, spinal decompression is similar to traction. A lot of people say, “Hey is it traction because I have an inversion table.”, so it’s similar to that. The difference is traction fails in many cases to reduce the muscle spasms. When you do traction a lot of times it can create muscle spasm, therefore, you can’t get in there to pull the disc apart. That’s one of the problems with traction.

Intervertebral disc decompression really focuses on certain segments of the spine to help decompress and heal those joints.

Host: Now, you mention some of the types of people who might have this issues. Maybe somebody who’s aging or they’ve had trauma? What kind of people, who could use this?

Dr. Troy: A lot of people who are aging, yeah, they have degenerative disc disease. You know, usually, people are motivated by pain so you might have people who come in who have numbness, tingling, burning, leg & foot pain, they can have arm pain, they could have altered sensation on their skin. They may have muscle weakness, they may even have atrophy, diminished reflexes. Those are some of the signs.

Usually, they are going to be diagnosed with somebody saying, “Hey, you’ve got a herniated or bulged disc, you’ve got degenerative disc disease, spinal stenosis, spinal arthritis, sciatica. They’ve had post-surgery, maybe they had a discectomy and now their pain is back. Maybe they had a laminectomy and their pain is back. So, people who have had post-surgical back pain, those are people we can help in many cases.

Host: Is this something that comes on that all at once or is this something that can creep up on them and they don’t really notice it and then all at once they do realize, I’ve got an issue?

Dr. Troy: Usually this is a progressive, degenerative thing. I mean a trauma; I recently had someone who was in a motor vehicle accident, we did an MRI and she had annular tears so the fibers around the disc were torn. She had two segments above that which were bulging so it was putting pressure on the cord. She was also getting leg pain, so I told her she was definitely a candidate for spinal decompression.

But, a lot of his other stuff, for example, me, when I was 12 I hurt my lower back. I fell off a three wheeler and landed right on my back, they next day I couldn’t stand up. My grandma took me to a chiropractor and within a month I was able to function again. I thought great, her adjusted me, no problem.

Then when I was in high school I hurt my shoulder, I went to a chiropractor. When I was bodybuilding when I was 18, 19, 20 when I was in college I was doing deadlifts and hurt my back again. I went to a chiropractor, he fixed me up and no big deal.

I’ve had low back stuff off and on that’s what got me into chiropractic because it helped me. I was pretty much pain-free. About 10 years ago I traveled and did some intense workouts when I came back home I couldn’t walk. It was bad, it took me an hour and a half to get into my truck. I couldn’t even get into the truck because I was in so much pain. I never miss work, I would up missing three days of work and I didn’t know what to do. I don’t like taking medication so I told myself I wasn’t taking any drugs and I was going to tough it out.

I got adjusted a ton of times and it didn’t help me, I thought chiropractic’s not working. I found a guy he told me to come over and do some spinal decompression and see what happens. He put me on the table, the first visit when I got off the table I realized I was actually going to get some relief here. I did a series of treatments and I have been pretty much pain-free.

In January of this year, I was lifting my three-year-old onto the toilet and POW did it again. This time I went to this doctor that I am working with now and I told him I wanted him to be my doctor. That’s all he does is spinal decompression, he is working with us at the Spinal Decompression Group, he put me on a protocol and told me I needed to get an MRI. I went and they found I had two bulged discs and an annular tear just like that patient I was telling you about. I have severe back pain and nothing was helping. I tried acupuncture, regular chiropractic, I was doing traction at home, I have an inversion table. Nothing was helping. I started doing the spinal decompression and with a short period of time I was pain-free and now I do it about once a week, every two weeks. A lot of the chronic low back stuff, when I would get in and out of the bed is gone. I am about 90% pain-free, like if I overdo it shoveling and stuff then I feel it.

I was so inspired by this healing that I bought a machine. We do it now in my clinic and I teamed up with the guy who helped me. We are just helping people who have back pain, sciatica, degeneration, and stenosis. Maybe they had post-surgical pain, they have bulging discs, and we are helping these people get better without surgery and without taking the drugs.

Host: Can you describe what a session is like? How long does it take? What do you do?

Dr. Troy: Typically what we will do is some rehab because of the posterior chain. Most people are at flexion. They are at a desk, their shoulders are internally rotated, and they’re flexed forward, they are in a flexed position. So, we work on strengthening the posterior chain, the back muscles.

There are some exercises you do before to warm up and then you lay on the machine. You either get strapped in either in your lower back; most people have lower back stuff but we do have some cervical decompression we can offer too. Basically, you wear a harness kind of like you are rock climbing. You strap it on, you lay on the table and then you put an upper body harness on which is hooked to a pulley. It oscillates through cycles of different weight and different tension through a period of time. So it might oscillate somewhere between 3-5 minutes, with 60, 40, 100, 120 pounds of pull and then it releases.

It takes about 25 minutes on the table. After you get off the table we may do some ice, some stretching, there are definitely more strengthening things. We found that when you do the decompression treatment with the postural strengthening exercises the outcomes are way more effective.

Host: That is a very cool therapy!

Dr. Troy: Yeah. It takes about an hour, the visit takes about an hour. Typically, people are going to respond right away. It may take a little while depending on how severe it is but usually, we are going to see people respond right away.

I want to tell you this. The chief spine surgeon at Georgetown University, Dr. William Lorient, they did a study and they found that back pain affects millions of Americans. From strains to ruptured discs and the dilemma they came across with was how do we treat this? This guy is a surgeon and the debate looms on how we treat the majority of these people with back pain conditions that don’t resolve. Whether they have radicular symptoms, pain in their leg or not or if they are a surgical candidate.

Long story short, they took 50 people put them through a series of decompression these people had back anywhere from 3 months to 15 years and there were 50 people in there divided evenly with men and women. What they found was 86% of the people that went through with the protocol, 86% of the people had normal activities of daily living after going through the protocol.

Host: Wow!

Dr. Troy: You know, with back surgery there is a 90-95% chance of a failure rate. Meaning, once they do one you have got to go for number two. Look at Tiger Woods, he’s had two back surgeries and he’s probably heading for infusion unless he does something different.

There’s hope. I have some case studies, I hope I can share with you before we have to close here.

Host: We’ve got about just a couple of minutes left in this particular segment.

Dr. Troy: Okay so this will be quick. There is a calf study of a patient with right calf pain, lumbar disc bulges with small annular tears, just what I had. The patient had radiating pain for 6-8 weeks, tried Celebrex, Advil, traditional chiropractic care, hot packs, and no change. The initial pain was 5 out of 10 after 6 weeks 100% improved.

Host: And you’re telling me this pain that he was experiencing was in his calf?

Dr. Troy: In his calf, in his leg.

Host: And the spinal decompression fixed it?

Dr. Troy: Yes, exactly. Another one with herniated nucleus pulposus, lumbar radiculopathy; 27-year-old male complaining of worsening back pain radiating to the left leg. He was doing traditional chiropractic care, 3-6 Vicodin a day, initial pain level was 8 out of 10. After 23 sessions of decompression over 6 weeks, his pain was reduced by 98%. That’s pretty amazing.

Lumbar disc degeneration patient. An 82-year-old man with constant aching pain that radiates through his right hip was taking 4 Vicodin a day and Celebrex.  A 10 out of 10 pain level, 96% relief of the pain with sessions in 6 weeks. Again, pretty amazing.

Host: It’s really miraculous. Tell people how they could get involved with spinal decompression.

Dr. Troy: One of the things we want to make available is to give people the opportunity to come in and have a consultation with us. If they have MRIs or x-rays we want them to bring that with them. Sometimes we will recommend, hey let’s do this, but people that might have been diagnosed with bulging disc, degeneration, stenosis, arthritis, sciatica they can call and schedule a consultation.

It’s $25 to reserve your appointment. We have an office in Vancouver off of Andresen and 4th Plain and we also have an office off Macadam by The Old Spaghetti Factory over there. We have great doctors in both locations that have this technology. It’s $25 to reserve your appointment, you just call out office (360) 260-6903 to reserve your consultation.

One thing, we also work with most insurance companies. A lot of insurance companies will pay for spinal decompression therapy

Spinal Decompression Interview Part 2

Listen to Part 2 of the interview:

Host: Welcome back to The Absolute Life Show with Dr. Troy Dreiling. Today we are talking about spinal decompression therapy. Dr. Troy can you briefly describe what that is and how it works.

Dr. Troy: Yes. Spinal decompression therapy is a non-surgical treatment to help correct discs that have been injured or that have been degenerative that have been causing problems for people. Things like herniated disc, bulging disc, degenerative discs, even spinal stenosis, spinal arthritis, sciatica, leg pain, even people who have had post-surgical issues. Spinal decompression can help get these people feeling good again. The track rate shows that 86% return to normal in the studies that have been done with decompression.

Basically, we are taking spinal joints and we are pulling the discs apart with a controlled force over a period of time and we combine that with strengthening and stretching exercises to help really get the spine firing and to help the disc regenerate.

I look at the discs like a sponge. You have a wet sponge and you push down on it because of gravity, like your head, so you’re going to lose fluid in that disc. What the decompression machine does is it actually helps pull that disc apart or pull that sponge apart and it creates a vacuum so that fluid is drawn back into the disc helping to rehydrate and bring nutrients to the disc so it can heal and take pressure off of the tissues that are around there that could be causing people severe pain.

Host: How long does this whole processes take?

Dr. Troy: Treatment can take anywhere from 30-60 minutes depending on the types of therapy you do. Typically, you are on the machine 25-30 minutes depending on the condition that is going on with the level. There is a certain protocol depending on which area is affected.

Host: Excellent. What kind of people need this?

Dr. Troy: I would say anybody with degenerative disc disease but typically we are going to see people who are looking at surgery. Maybe they have been to a neurosurgeon and have been told they need to have surgery now. There are some contrary indications to doing this, a certain disease process but we screen them to make sure they qualify. Some people don’t qualify but the majority of the people do that have herniated discs, bulging discs, degenerative disc disease, spinal stenosis, arthritis in their spine, people who are experiencing leg pain of sciatica, even muscle weakness or change  in sensation reflex, muscle atrophy, some people with foot drop we’ve seen improve. Even people who have had spine surgeries, as long as they don’t have hardware in there, fusions with hardware, people who have had surgery that don’t have those things typically respond well to spinal decompression therapy.

Host: Can you tell us some stories of people who you have seen deal with this?

Dr. Troy:  Yeah. One thing I will tell you too is that we have a website it’s called you can go there and check out what we do and the offices we have.

I have about 6 or 7 stories that I would like to share with before the end of our show today so if there is anybody out there that sounds like them, call us at (360) 260-6903. We will schedule you a consultation with one of our doctors either on Macadam or over in Vancouver near the Vancouver mall off of S R 500.

So, this is a low back patient with right lower extremity radiculopathy. Basically, they are getting pain in their right lower leg and back. A 51-year-old female who had been doing physical therapy, chiropractic, bracing, bed rest, activity restrictions and medication. When I say chiropractic I mean traditional chiropractic with adjustments which helps tons of people but just like for me when I hurt my lower back I was getting adjusted and it wasn’t helping.

This lady started doing decompression, she had a pain level of 5 out of 10 with 50% mobility. She did 20 decompression sessions in 6 weeks, 100% relief from pain. She no longer ha pain in the morning and only experiences tingling when she bends.

Here’s another one. A 39-year-old male with recurring low back pain, the diagnosis was lumbar osteoarthritis, degenerative disc disease. He had difficulty sleeping, his pain level was a 7 ½ out of 10, limited ranges of motion. He did 23 sessions over a 6 week period, 99% pain relief achieved. He said he no longer had to use a lumbar belt and he felt a lot better.

Another one was a 46-year-old woman with persistent low back pain. Disc protrusion or disc or disc extrusion that was the diagnosis. She had radiation into her legs, her pain level was 5 out of 10. She was doing physical therapy, chiropractic, pool therapy, facet joint blocks which are injections. Vicodin, Motrin and taking muscle relaxers.

Host: Oh my goodness.

Dr. Troy: This was going on for 12 weeks. She had difficulty sleeping, wasn’t working very good. 21 axial decompression session over a 6 week period, 100% relief of pain.

Host: You know what’s interesting to me is as you are reading these case studies to us is that the pain is not necessarily in the back. It can be anywhere in the body but is being caused, like you have discovered through chiropractic, and yet decompression is what’s taking the pain away.

Dr. Troy: Yeah. With traditional chiropractic, you are adjusting the spine to free up the nerves but if you’ve got this degeneration in the discs, the disc isn’t moving, it’s dehydrated, maybe some of the fluid is pushing into the spinal cord. It’s like we have to pull that apart because gravity is just going to keep it going down.

What are these people going to do? Surgery? There is a high percentage of failure rate with surgery. I’ve had patients, a guy who had surgery he came to me 10 years ago he had this chronic low back surgery and now he‘s fine. Down the road, he may experience post-surgical pain.

Surgery can help sometimes but if we can do it naturally without that and get them off the medication and restore their life, that’s what chiropractic to me is. It’s more of a specialty within the chiropractic profession.

Do you want me to share some more?

Host: Please do.

Dr. Troy: Lumbar disc bulge, radiating low back pain from a 34-year-old male with a history of multiple car accidents. He was complaining about back pain radiating to the right leg, limited lifting, bending, sitting, walking and standing. The MRI of the lumbar spine found disc bulges of L4, L5, S1, central canal, and foraminal were normal.

So lower lumbar disc bulge. He was doing chiropractic, physical therapy, Celebrex, Vioxx, Bextra, and Vicodin.

Host: That’s quite a cocktail there.

Dr. Troy: Yeah, 10 years of that man, you’re going to have some problems with your liver. 7 ½ out of 10 was his pain scale and after 6 weeks he had a 100% pain relief.  This stuff if amazing to me when I read it.

Here’s another one, radiating back pain, degenerative disc disease and has had back pain for 25 years. The patient was 41 years old, had associated stiffness, leg weakness and was unable to sleep. The MRI showed bulging at T12, L1, L2, L3, L4, L5, and S1. He had limited range of motion, leg strength was weakened on the left leg with a pain level of 8 out of 10.

Host: Poor guy.

Dr. Troy: Look at this, 12 sessions in 2 ½ weeks, 99% relief.

Host: Wow! After 25 years that this person suffered from that.

Dr. Troy: Yeah, that’s what gets me excited about this because I was the same way. I thought I have to do something different because this adjustment stuff is not working. I mean, I love chiropractic I adjust people all day long. I have patients in my office that aren’t responding and I’m like, let’s do decompression and see how it works.

Host: You got it

Dr. Troy: Another patient, 47-year-old female with constant back pain radiating down both legs. She had a history of an injury many years prior, leg strength was weakened on the right and left, the MRI showed a bulge at L4, L5 with and 8 out of 10 pain scale. After 6 weeks of decompression therapy 100%

Host: Nice!

Dr. Troy: Another one, failed back surgery. A 38-year-old male with pain and numbness with a history of multiple sclerosis did a lumbar discectomy and has experienced progressively worsening symptoms since the surgery. His pain level was a 7 out of 10, not sleeping good, activities of daily living, sitting and standing were all limited. Look at this, 3 weeks 14 session, 100% pain relief.

Host: That’s amazing!

Dr. Troy: It is amazing! That’s why I get on the radio and do this because people don’t know. Even a lot of doctors don’t know about this.

Host: So, it’s not for everybody necessarily but it could be for you and you definitely want to check it out.

Dr. Troy: Absolutely. Anybody who has herniated discs, they’ve been diagnosed with that or degeneration, spinal stenosis, arthritis, sciatica, post-surgical pain you got to call our office. Let’s just see, let’s do a consultation and see if you qualify.

Anybody suffering, you know someone who is suffering, if you’ve had surgery or your thinking about surgery. If you’ve had MRIs trying to find the cause of your neck or back pain call our offices, The Spinal Decompression Group. It’s a group of doctors that actually do this therapy and procedure to help correct spinal problems that traditional chiropractic, physical therapy and the medications not giving you relief/

We just want to see if we can help, you know. So call our office (360) 260-6903 to schedule an appointment. It’s $25 to reserve your spot, we will do a consultation with you, see what’s going on with you, see if you qualify for decompression therapy. The number again is (360) 260-6903 and it’s $25 to reserve your spot.

A lot of people as about insurance. Bring your insurance card, we will check the benefits. We work with many insurance companies that cover decompression therapy.

Host: A lot of these people have had issues for quite a long time. Maybe they have been to a doctor before so if they have the MRIs or X-rays they should bring them over.

Dr. Troy: Absolutely, yes. We encourage that, we like to see imaging so we can see if there’s a bulge at L5, S1 versus L1, we want to know because we can focus the machine and our treatment to focus specifically on that segment.

Host: It’s The Spinal Decompression Group again the telephone number (360) 260-6903 to schedule your appointment. There is an office in Vancouver on Andresen and Fourth Plain or in Portland just off of Macadam.

Dr. Troy: Yes.

Host: That’s fantastic because it’s very convenient for just about anybody.

Dr. Troy: Correct. So if you’re suffering just come on in to see us and we will take care of you.

Host: Fantastic. Dr. Troy, thank you for being us this spinal decompression therapy and telling us all about it and helping solve so many problems.

Dr. Troy: Thank you, I really appreciate it.

How Does Non-Surgical Back Pain Treatment Work?


We use a traction type machine which basically we can get very specific and very controlled. We take the injured or damaged disc that is compressed or bulging and we use the machine to take the segments and gently pull them apart with the traction machine.

We use a sustained force over time loading and unloading the disc so it creates a negative vacuum in the disc which draws the fluid and some of the sequestered material back in towards the center of the disc where it belongs.

This takes the pressure off of the nerve roots, the spinal cord and significantly reduces the patients pain without the use for potential surgery.

If you are interested let us know. We would be happy to help.

Disuse Muscle Atrophy and Rehab Care


What is this disuse muscle atrophy?

You know a lot of times we’ll look at a patient’s MRI, we’ll look at their supporting spinal muscles and they’ll be shot. What I mean is they’re not firing right, they should be nice whole healthy-looking muscles.

A lot of people who have disc bulges, disc herniation, leg pain, sciatic issues, stenosis, the muscles that support their spine are not functioning properly and they’re full of fat.  And so what happens is those muscles haven’t been firing, they’re not being used and that’s why we call it disuse and then they shrink which is atrophy.

So one of the things that is key to getting patients to recover that have disc issues, back issues. leg issues, sciatic issues, is the rehab component. Steve Kerr from the Golden State Warriors said he wished he would have never gotten back pain but his thing was rehab, rehab, rehab.

We have a protocol and a machine that specifically is designed to wake up the muscles, to wake up the nerves so that you can start fighting against gravity again. A  lot of these people who have back pain and disc issues, gravity’s winning and that’s why they’re hurting and that’s why they’re looking at surgery.

If one of the big things that’s not addressed after somebody has surgery is the rehab component, problems tend to come back. That’s why many people have had two, three, four back surgeries because they failed, they didn’t really address the true cause of back pain.

What Is The DRX9000?


The DRX 9000 is a traction table that’s designed to reduce pressure on the discs.

Our end goal is to decompress the discs non-surgically. So we use a varying amount of tractional forces anywhere from 60 pounds, 80 pounds, potentially up to 100 pounds and we put traction forces on a disc for a period of time anywhere from 30 to 60 seconds. We may do 12 to 18 cycles of that over a 20 to 30 minute window.

We have motors on the machine there’s two servo motors which talk to the machine 14 times a second so we can get it very specific and a very accurate pull on a disc that’s compromised to help reduce the pressure on the disc  and to help restore function to the disc and get the disc to heal and help the body work.

So, the DRX 9000 is a pretty amazing machine and a  pretty fascinating machine for helping people with chronic and severe low back pain, leg pain and disc issues.

Headache, Migraines and Back Pain

Over 90% of headaches are tension related. Chiropractic is a safe gentle way to reduce the pressures and stress that are on the nerves which is a cause of most headache and migraine pain.


Dr. Troy from Zenaptic Chiropractic.

I want to talk about headaches, migraines and back pain. Chiropractic is a safe, gentle and effective way to help reduce the pressure and stress that are on the nerves.

The upper cervical; the skull and atlas. There is a triangle of bones and if there is a misalignment due to sitting, traumas, stressors or sleeping it can misalign the vertebra and put pressure and stress on your nerves. Over 90% of headaches are tension related. Migraine headaches can be associated with misalignment in the upper cervical spine.

We are very good at correcting this and analyzing. If you’re suffering or know anyone who is suffering call our office at (360) 260-6903. We will schedule a consultation to see if chiropractic is right for you.

This is Dr. Troy from Zenaptic Chiropractic.

Lower Back, Foot and Knee Pain

Most of us sit a lot which can contribute to lower back pain as well as foot and knee pain.

To see if we can help, call our office.


Hi everybody. It’s Dr. Troy, the Vancouver Chiropractor.

I want to talk about lower back pain, foot and knee pain that can be coming from your lower back being out of alignment and the joints not moving properly.

Most of us sit a lot. By the way, if your cell phone rings stand up, walk around your office and take the call. That will help keep things moving.

If that doesn’t help clear up your lower back pain, call us for a consultation, it’s no charge to see if chiropractic is right for you.

This is Dr. Troy, the Vancouver Chiropractor.

Dr. Troy Dreiling Interview: Chiropractic Helps Sciatica – Case Study

Dr. Troy Dreiling was interviewed by Ron’s Amazing Stories Podcast earlier this year. The transcription and audio link are below.

Interview Begins at 4:07 mark.

We are here with Dr. Troy and he is going to tell you all about me and all about his background.

Ron: Dr. Troy you started out in chiropractic stuff when you were 11 years old

Dr. Troy: 11 years old, yup.

Ron: How is that possible?

Dr. Troy: Well, I was riding a three wheeler and I got injured. I fell off the back of it and it knocked the wind out of me and the next day I couldn’t stand up. My grandmother’s neighbor said, “hey, you’re gonna go to this chiropractor.” So I went to this chiropractor and he did his chiropractic thing and I was able to walk.

I never really thought about chiropractic until I was sixteen. I hurt my shoulder playing football and another good friend of mine said, “hey, you should try my chiropractor”, so I went to this other chiropractor and he fixed my shoulder.

My grandfather asked me, “what are you going to grow up to be?” I told him I didn’t know, asked him what I should do. He said, “you should be a pharmacist.” So I went to Oregon State University and I always say thank God for out of state tuition, I didn’t enroll in pharmacy school. I went, I am going to be a physical therapist because really, I thought that’s what chiropractic was. I was wrong.

I went to Eastern Washington University to go to physical therapy school. I was bodybuilding at the time, very competitively, injured my low back again at 18 years old, 19 years old. So I went to a chiropractor in Cheney and I’m laying there and he asks me “what are you gonna be?”. I told him I was going to be a physical therapist and I remember he read me the riot act and explained why I shouldn’t be a physical therapist, why I should be a chiropractor.

From that day forward I pretty much switched my major to chiropractic and that’s what got me into this thing. But, the really crazy part about chiropractic was when I was in school all through junior high, high school, college I had really really bad allergies. I started getting adjusted in chiropractic school, regularly, not when my shoulder hurt or when my back hurt or when I couldn’t walk; I just said I was going to start going in for health maintenance and just check this thing out.

So, I did and after about three months of getting adjusted every single week my allergy problem that I had for over a decade went away.

Ron: Wow!

Dr Troy: So I said, there’s something to this thing called chiropractic. So, that’s what got me into it.

Ron: How long have you been doing this?

Dr. Troy: 22 years

Ron: 22 years, I bet you have some stories.

Dr. Troy: I got lots of stories, yeah.

Ron: Do you have one in your mind that just absolutely stands out as, this is the story that represents.

Dr. Troy: There are so many stories but one of the biggest things was this lady who had Bell’s palsy, facial paralysis, it looked like she had a stroke. So I started doing upper cervical chiropractic work on her; Jim McMahon, the Chicago Bears quarterback, he started getting upper cervical care and he said it felt like the toilet bowl flushed in his head. I’ve got an MRI on my website the before and after of the swelling of the brain and then after he got adjusted.

So this lady came on, Bell’s palsy and she’s been a patient of mine for 7 or 8 years, she went to the neurologist and he said BEll’s palsy. I told her to let me take an x-ray, which I did of the upper cervical the Atlas and I started adjusting her. With the first adjustment there was a 50% reduction, second adjustment and 80% reduction, the 3rd adjustment 100% complete resolution.

You wouldn’t ever think, oh I am going to go to a chiropractor but when you understand the central nerve system runs it all and that the bones are just protecting those nerves but if there’s traumas; like with you all the sitting, all the repetitive traumas it creates the inflammation response which can then lead to degeneration then the nerves become altered and you lose function.

It’s just a whole degenerative process that chiropractic can intervene with and do some amazing things.

Ron: That brings up a great thing. The listeners already heard my story from my perspective. Can you tell my story from your perspective.

Dr. Troy: Yeah, absolutely. You’re classic, somebody who is sitting a lot, driving a lot and maybe have not been taught how to take care of your spine. To do things to help bring health to your spinal system. People come in with acute pain, like you, I mean you had your cane you were walking sideways, I see it alot. The biggest thing for me with those people is to let them know, hey you’re on the right path it’s just going to take some time.

I mean I recently just had an episode where I was lifting my daughter and I flared up my back almost as bad as you I just didn’t have a cane so I was just hobbling around. I went to this chiropractor friend of mine and he had me take an MRI, he’s anti surgery because he does decompression so he started working with me. I was like, man when’s this going to go away and it was about 90 days and then I was like, okay I am good now. So that’s the biggest thing is to let people know that you are on the right path and chiropractic can help. It’s just going to take some time and repetition. That’s the hardest thing to get people to understand because we all want it right now.

Ron: It was interesting when I came in. I remember I pulled into the parking lot and all of the spots in front of the office were filled, every one of them. I had to park on the other side and i was thinking, do I really want to get out of the car and walk in there. That’s how bad I was and I will admit, I was hoping for miracles that I was going to walk out of there that day pain free and everything was going to be great and that I was going to be back to normal and that’s not what happens.

Dr. Troy: It happens sometimes but most of the times it’s going to take the repetition because you have the inflammation around the joints and the nerves and that just takes time to get rid of. Just like when you sprain an ankle, it doesn’t go away overnight. You break a bone, it doesn’t heal overnight.

You’re like the classic great patient, you follow the recommendations. That’s really what it takes. It’s like, here’s the game plan, you lay it down now execute and you get better.

Ron: You know, in those first few days I was thinking, this isn’t working, this is not working. I would hobble in and i would twist around but then I noticed, hey wait a minute my neck doesn’t give me problems. Then slowly by slowly I was standing up and it got easier and easier to stand up and now it’s been what three weeks?

Dr. Troy: 4 weeks, we just finished your first progress check up. Pretty amazing change. You’ve also noticed your tinnitus

Ron: My tinnitus! I wasn’t even thinking about that. I have had that since my head banging days when I was a teenager and that is kind of where I thought I had permanently damage my ears, but I had noticed a remarkable decrease in my tinnitus. I asked you, is that even possible? How is that possible that it helped my tinnitus?

Dr. Troy: Here’s the cool thing and it will help you understand, the very first chiropractic adjustment D.D. Palmer adjust this African American janitor who’s name was Harvey Lillard. He came in and say hey I’m deaf and D.D. was a magnetic healer, so he found in his neck that he had a bone out of alignment. He made an adjustment to that and it restored his hearing.

Ron: Woah!
Dr. Troy: That’s how chiropractic got started. So, the neurology in the upper neck controls the inner ear. I see this a lot in car accidents, they will have ringing in their ears and they will be dizzy. You start adjusting them and it clears it up. That communication pathway gets opened up and then the body functions normally again.

Ron: You know, another thing that I had noticed is, prior to, my energy level was just non existent. Hence, like I have told the listeners, I didn’t feel like doing interviews. I got the show up but I was just thinking, ugh, I got to get the show out. Now, it’s just completely different. I feel energized. I’m not just saying this (laughs) I haven’t felt this energized in a long time. I attribute it, I mean there’s nothing else to attribute it to other than getting adjusted.

Dr. Troy: Well, you have 313 spinal joints and they all have receptors that tell your brain where those joints are and whether they are moving or not. So, when the joints don’t move part of your brain literally atrophies. So, you lose brain function, so when you get the spine moving it actually energizes the nerve system. There is a lot of research on that.

Balance, you see a lot of that in seniors, people that fall a lot, their spine is not moving properly and so they lose communication.

Two of the biggest thing I will see with new patients when they start getting adjusted. One, they sleep better and two they get more energy. Those are the two biggest things. If I ever see someone that is not sleeping good I go yup, or if they have low energy, I’m like yup nokay you are on the right path.

Ron: I am going to ask what I think is going to be a simple question. You wake up, you find yourself in pain the doctor says you need surgery, you don’t want to go that route. The problem with surgery from my research is, it isn’t so much the surgery it’s the aftermath of having to go through physical therapy basically learning how to walk again and do all of the things that you have done before.

Chiropractic kind of avoids all of that. What should a person do, they wake up and they are constantly in pain.

Dr. Troy: I would definitely tell them to check out chiropractic first. Scott Mendelson who is a medical doctor wrote a book he said, “anybody who does surgery before chiropractic should have their head examined.”

So, I always tell people who are in pain, hey if it’s not going to work you can always do the surgery. I have a book that says 97% of back surgeries fail; within 5 years. So that means they are going back for number two.

I’ve seen a lot of cases that could have gone down the surgical route and through chiropractic you save them. I have even seen people who have had surgeries in their spine start getting adjusted and they do way better.

Ron: I’ve told the listeners how I found you. Your practice is unique. I have been to chiropractors before I went to one after a car accident in about 2006 and they restored me too by the way; but, your parctice is unique it has this feel to it like you make the person want to come in and do these exercises. I don’t like this term but it is almost like a gym environment.

Dr. Troy: Yeah, you mentioned that to me the other day. I mean I grew up in the gym, working out and i have a gym at home. To me to make physiological changes in the body it kind of has to be a gym atmosphere you know.

I have been to chiropractic clinics where they are very sterile, non exciting. I mean somebody is in a lot of pain but I have a lot of people that come back to see me when they are not in pain. They want to come back to maintain their health through chiropractic.

Ron: I am not saying this other chiropractor wasn’t good but that’s exactly what you said. I sat in the waiting room twiddling my thumbs, he would call me in twist me around a bit tell me what I was to do at home, never showed me what to do just said this is what I want you to do and of course I did it and recovered but you do so much more than that.

You have people here to show them how to use the equipment how to spend the time and learn these exercises, they will help. You offer all of the things that you could possibly need to make it better and you have a hydro bed (laughs) which is absolutely fantastic!

Dr. Troy: (Laughs) I call that a dry jacuzzi bed.

Ron: That thing, I could sleep on that thing. Anyway, it’s a wonderful environment here and I have never seen anything like it and I appreciate it so much because it fits who I am.

Dr. Troy: Right and I appreciate that.

Ron: I just love it and I just want the listener to know, if you’re in Vancouver come here! Zenaptic Chiropractic. I have to say it’s a pleasure to be here talking with you today. I have loved every minute of it. To hear my story told through your perspective is pretty cool.

Dr. Troy: Good job on making success and I’m happy to help spread the word.

Ron: I mean I can actually walk folks. I can get up and walk, pain free.

Dr. Troy: I am still trying to get you to give me that cain so I can put it on my wall.

Ron: You know what, it’s not even here, it’s not even in the car today.

Dr. Troy: Right on!